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It's very hard for me to watch Kitty and Sarah be so hard on Nora. Man, that woman can take a licking and keep on ticking, though, huh? Hehe. I love when they came back with their tails between their legs, wanting and begging for her advice, and then she stopped short because she was living her life, going for a massage. That made watching all the prior bitchiness worth it.


Really? I enjoyed it. I think her meddling/interfering/pushing has gone over the top, especially this week. She pushed herself into the sisters-only spa weekend when she knew the girls wanted to be alone. She wouldn't stop rambling about divorce statistics when Sarah was trying to relax. She completely ignored everyone's wishes for her to leave Tommy alone. I loved it when they told her she needs a life. Because she does. Her kids are adults. Sure, they still need her and want her in their lives, but they're not 7 either. She succeeded in alienating Sarah, Kitty, Tommy and Justin in a very short period of time because she wouldn't back off.

Yeah, I liked it when Kitty and Sarah came back and wanted her advice, too. She's their mom, and she often has good advice. That doesn't mean they didn't have a point when they said she had gone too far and needs a life.

I really think the writers did this on purpose to lead Nora to getting more of a life. I hope so because that's the first time I've seen Kitty and Sarah that mad about her meddling; there must be a point to it. Plus, her meddling has been worse than usual.

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Loved the Kevin/Saul stuff. Kevin, IMO, is the most tender-hearted and sensitive of the Walker children. Saul's in denial, but Kevin will be there for him.


I tend to put Justin in that role. I guess I have too many images of Kevin sticking his foot in his mouth or just being difficult with Robert and Kitty last season.

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In theory, I understand why the writers are taking Tommy down this road. Like father like son and all that jazz. I'm just disappointed it's rushed this much. And, as I've said, I don't like them making Julia the bad guy to get Tommy to this point. I absolutely hated hearing Lena tell him that Julia was being ridculous for blaming him. She's saying what he wants to hear, stroking his ego. Julia isn't being ridiculous. It might not be a rational way to feel, but it's human to feel the way she does. And Lena wasn't there! I really deplore a scenario where the other woman bad mouths the wife so that she can be the good little mistress.


I see your point, but I mostly saw Lena as trying to be supportive of Tommy. He was kicking himself pretty hard; she was trying to help imo. I think he needed to hear someone say this isn't his fault. And it isn't.

I understand how Julia feels. I really do. I'm not mad at her. And, I'm really not mad at Tommy either. His wife left with his daughter; he doesn't know when/if she's returning, and she won't even take his phone calls.

At first, I thought they rushed this, but now I've changed my mind. All I really needed to know was what a mess Tommy and Julia's marriage is and has been for a long time to explain what happened.

It did seem to me they rushed Justin falling off the wagon a bit though. I would've like to have seen some struggle with him.